Ellie: Paying for medicare has been going on for years and if you have a supplement that is also deductable. You can deduct those payments on your income tax....I do not know where you get your information but you need to educate yourself a bit more....I am a 75 yr. old.....

The guy did say the kissed as they left.

Good call Vicki. Did the media mention how many Rick supporters were in Obama's southern chicago. Wish I could've been there.

So you admit that two men were caught homosexualizing Santorum's indoor political rally and were thrown out on account of their perverted behavior and other misbehaviors in a public setting.

The article title should be a clue to you that it is not about what Santorum was speaking about. The article was about someone protesting Santorum's beliefs/running platform. If you want a recap of what was said I suggest look for an article that has an appropriate title.

Integrity and truth haven't been prevailent in the media for a very long time.They use the air waves to promote their choice. And they sway the voters towards their candidate by using catch phrases like "a vote for him is a wasted vote. and some other phrases just as bad. The perfect example is this. They don't want Santorum to win, so they will smear him with their little misrepresentations.

Well, maybe he went there for another couple of hours of sunbathing, this time with his campaign "picking up the tab".

Only Reason PR is What it is for the USA
CUBA

The heading I see here is this: Two Men Disrupt Santorum Rally, Kiss As They Are Thrown Out , where does it say "hundreds of people"?

I agree. The report claims that there were 50 people protesting outside of a large rally of Santorum supporters, and from the photo I can tell that is a questionable number in the first place, but why should this garnish any attention from the media? My second question is, why did these people exploit their children by bringing them out there to hold signs they obviously didn't make themselves and are too young to understand?

no joke, look up the tea-baggers rallies of '09&'10 look at the hate signs about the President and the children brought by their parents. Glass houses??

Hey Paul Pearson, I'm not a tea person. I think for myself and I hope you do as well. Following any person that would violate your personal convictions would be very troubling for any self respecting individual. That's also why I could never support Obama again.

Rosa Parks was one woman who wouldn't give up her seat to a white man on a segregated bus in Montgomery, Ala. If "no joke" was directing the coverage of that story, s/he would want the headline to read "Almost unanimous compliance with bus segregation policy". Yet we know that the simple act of this one woman brought down the institution of Jim Crow and led to widespread and irreversible changes nationwide.
These two young men did a simple thing: they kissed and got thrown out of a presidential contender's rally for that. And yet that simple act — right in front of Rick Santorum, who refused to stop their ouster from the rally — points up Santorum's intolerance for 10 percent of the American population (the same as the black population that was being discriminated against intolerably in the 1950s) and will signal to all decent, freedom-loving Americans that Santorum is no more fit for the nation's highest office than were George Wallace or Strom Thurmond or the other racist Southerners of the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. We don't tolerate the intolerant. Not with the presidency. It just doesn't work that way.

I don't care who the homosexual people want and do sleep with. I was only commenting on the fact that the writer of the article wasn't focused on the correct news. The two guys were making a disturbance so they could get thrown out. Their obvious agenda was to then kiss when they were being thrown out. I question if they are even gay. It was a prank to get attention. Children shouldn't be subjected to any of this stuff (political stuff!). Just like they shouldn't be used at pro-life rallies or pro- abortion rallies. Leave the kids out of this stuff, let them be kids and when they grow of age they can decide on their own. Santorum isn't someone I support anyway. Why is it that so many jump to conclusion? I don't support Rick Santorum. Go Ron Paul, the only honest candidate. I will never support Obama again.

Hey “NO JOKE” you state “Children shouldn't be subjected to any of this stuff (political stuff!).” Then why do parents bring them in the first place? Since when does the Constitution that gives FREE SPEECH TO ALL AMERICANS give YOU the right to pick and choose what someone can say or do? HUH???
You said “Leave the kids out of this stuff, let them be kids and when they grow of age they can decide on their own. ”Children LEARN what we teach them. If we teach them HATRED and BIGGOTRY they will learn it and practice it the rest of their lives (unless Hopefully somewhere along the line they are taught and learn differently as an adult)!

There were many, many children present with their families to hear Santorum speak. As one who brought her child to peacefully protest please see my comment below. NSG

@Michael Mc I think you present a shining comparison and agree with you wholeheartedly, we do not tolerate the intolerant for president.

@no joke 'a couple of people' at the Santorum make the news at the Patch because this is a hyper local news outlet, Mt Caramel is a mere minutes away from town. #geography

would have been funny I think
They want ot make an Ass out of themselves? Be My Guest

Mike in Va, that's my opinion and the way I raised my kids. So you think I shouldn't be able to voice my opinion? I'm not advocating limiting your right to do that if you want to or anyone else for that matter. Children are taught, you're correct but at what price is someone willing to make their kids carry? I wouldn't do it. If you want to take your grand kids to some politically charged event, go ahead. You do a lot of yelling and portray an angry man pretty well. Did your wife like that? Did your kids learn that from you too? Lighten up before you have a heart attack and Obama has one less vote.

As opposed to what "press", the regressive one?

How right you are, Robert. However, you forgot to mention unbalanced, reductive, elitist, greedy, and prejudiced.

The rest of the crowd screamed "USA!" for about a minute, preventing Santorum from speaking. None of them were asked to leave. Only the kissers were asked to leave. Had all the disrupters been asked to leave, hardly anybody would have been allowed to stay.

wow, and you say he's the fool? looks like the joke is on you!!

So yelling "YOU LIE" in congress would be bad or good.Your answer please

sorry I don't want a Chirsten Right Person running My Country
and I'm afraid The Republicans Haven't got a Chance with either Mitt or Santorum

Or showing up at Obama rallies armed to the teeth? Even though Obama has never once advocated gun control?

I'am glead you are modern!!!!!
Hipocrit?

Well perhaps all the gay Obama supporters can have a mass kissoff at one of his rallies so everyone can see what a modern, secular progressive he is

Donna...are you implying that you can't be Christian and gay, or even support gay rights? Get out your Bible, READ THE WORDS IN RED... Jesus was a champion of the poor, the dispossed and downtrodden. His greatest disdain was for the Pharases... So pray on this...Would Jesus wear a Rolex, carry a gun, and sneer from a podiu, or would He preach love thy enemy, turn the other cheek and be your brother's keeper?

Re Donnarie Campbell's comment: The stupid part of it all is - the greatest majority of Americans claim to have a Christian affiliation; obviously, they're lying...

See? You got it in one!

Christians don't hate. Haters aren't Christian. So when we see Rick Santorum hating people and see so-called Christians cheering him on, we know who's lying.

It seems as though "no joke" would rather read/hear someones opinion that learn facts for himself. This is typical of most right-wingers, too lazy to look up the facts while all too willing to spread rumors and hate.

Hey John Q. Doe, I looked it up when it was first posted and it didn't contain any real information, just slants of the not truth type. Once again if Messmer doesn't have anything to state of his own he shouldn't try. Hating is something you do. I don't hate you or the other John if you aren't the same person. Just trying to make a point which it doesn't seem you know how to do.

Are you the same John Messmer that was a High School teacher that retired with that nice pension and then took another teaching job somewhere else and is making 6 figures on the system?

Mary Jo do you realize that you categorized yourself with what you were complaining about.

Sorry, I want Seperation of Church and State
Keep Religion to oneself and don't force it upon everyone else
And Espeically if your Orthodoxed about it
And what is the POV of the Jewish Americans about Santorum or Romeny

That's asking to much Mary. Actually articulating what you believe in doesn't happen anyone more when someone is poised a question. It's nothing but side stepping. FYI this isn't directed at any one person or party, its the reality of modern politics. Which is why you do not see anyone actually explain why the believe something, it just turns to name calling and piss poor generalizations (conservative, far right, liberal, far left, blah, blah).

I find the reporter to have done his job. It was just a statement of facts, as to what happened.

Please enlighten us as to what was reported incorrectly.

ditto-One Was a Girl in Drag, I think
Can never tell nowadays

I read the title of the article, read what I expected from it. As far as journalism reporting accurately, you should know most news sources are going to put a spin on just about anything news related to fit their demographic. I would suggest finding whatever company fits your beliefs/values the best and go with them. You will be less offended in the long run.

I do think they should have been thrown out for kissing at a political rally, Of course if I were sitting at a strip club, and the guy beside me started talking politics or religion, I would want him thrown out too.

Hey Kyle.. Ask yourself this.............ould a straight man get thrown out because you kiss your wife or girlfriend? HELL NO

Yes, Santorum's main point seemed to be to criticize so called "entitlement" programs we all pay for with our taxes....In other words, if you've lost your jobs as MILLIONS have done in this recession, he does NOT want you to be able to receive those demonic unemployment benefits. Ditto for that unholy Medicare your elderly relatives receive....Santorum is an extreme right winger who carries water for Wall Street and the billionaire 1%. Their REAL agenda is to make the rest of America do without so that they can become EVEN RICHER. It's disgusting and hardly "Christian".

These two young men WERE the story at Arlington High School Friday night. They were there to call out Santorum for the intolerant stance he has taken against 10 percent of the American population. And when he had a chance to uphold their right to free speech, Santorum chose not to. He let them be removed for kissing in public. That's what happened. It's on tape. Because you disapprove of their actions does not entitle you to change the facts. Good on the Patch! Keep up the journalism, people might learn something!

Tell that to Native Americans

Cool comment, Randall. Santorum is the figurehead for the malignant & stupid. His nomination by the right would be a gift for President Obama in the election. I truly believe sanity & moderation is represented by the majority in this country. It's just that the mentally unstable zealots can scream the loudest. It doesn't require a lot of thinking on their part...hence, the "USA" chants. LOL!

Brian, all gay people want is to be treated EQUALLY. Not as subservient second class citizens. Sure they want to be left alone in the case of WITCH HUNTS where they can be fired just for being gay. If you are, can you be fired because you are straight? NO YOU CANNOT. Does a straight man get thrown out because you kiss your wife or girlfriend? NO YOU DO NOT. As is the case here, two gay men kissing in the Santorum Camp is a major disruptive event. As a straight man can you visit your wife in the hospital? SURE YOU CAN. Until recently a gay man could not visit his partner in the hospital, even if that person was dying. Can your wife leave your estate to you without question? Sure she can. Can a gay man leave his estate to his male partner in many states, NO HE CANNOT! Some states can override the will and take the money and give it to whomever protests about it (usually a biological sibling or parent). I suggest these people pull their heads out of the sand and look around at the inequalities that still exist in the United States of America towards gays and anyone who is different. Regardless, having traveled around the world many times with my work and seen dozens of governments and peoples, I still proudly choose to call the United States of America my home.

Mike, Those people were, in fact, booooooed out by all of us who took the time from our busy lives to come and listen to a man of honor, Rick Santorum, speak. They were NOT kicked out because they kissed. They were kicked out because they were so rude and inconsiderate as to start screaming out as Mr. Santorum spoke, and AFTER they had grabbed the crowd's attention ~ then, they kissed. Why is it that the very group that whines that no one will give them respect are the ones who verbally and physically attack those that believe differently?? Glittering Newt, Attempted glittering of Romney, screaming out and acting out during Rick Santorum's speech was inappropriate behavior on the part of the people who were acting out. Why do YOU have no respect for the beliefs of others? This was not a rally held for the purpose of promoting gays, it was a rally for Rick Santorum, why didn't they respect Rick Santorum? I think their sick behavior deserved to be ousted!

HELLOOOOOOOOOOO Learn how to read. NOBODY WENT AT IT as you so foolishly put it. One man kissed another. I am sure sometime during that rally a man held a girl's hand or ... oh my God. MAYBE EVEN KISSED A GIRL. SHOULD THEY BE THROWN OUT..................HELL NO. NOW GO GET OVER YOURSELF.

Ben, you must be kidding???? It's smoke and mirrors and you can't see through the fog.

Not that Obama's policies have anything to do with this story, but he's raised everyones taxes. No, not yet, but just wait until his health care plan and his alternative energy plan regulations kick in. I agree we need to repair our health care system and explore green energy, but his idea of making the government the center controlling/dictating designer of these crutical life elements have got to be stopped NOW NOT LATER.

Nojoke, did you just lay down a fog of smoke and mirrors rather than come up with a direct answer to Ben's question?

I think KWANTIFY needs to go back to school and learn how to read and spell. "IF" you listen to the Republican Conservative mumbo jumbo you will believe that yours taxes will go up. Don't these idiots realize that it was G. W. BUSH who setup and put the tax cuts in question all the time to expire?? HELLO .. DUH???? President Obama EXTENDED the BUSH TAX CUTS to help working Americans…He did not raise the taxes. Did President Obama not also give a FICA tax cut last year and this year to help working Americans? YES HE DID. I am always amazed that so many people in our learned country are so stupid.

Aw, c'mon. Whether we agree with Kwantify or not, my read of his post suggests that he committed a typo. And you really can't rip on his spelling when you say "yours taxes" and you think "setup" is a verb. Why don't we just stick to the issues, ok?

I'm not a Santorum fan but you don't know about the dead baby until you've been there. So have you been there James Taylor?

Idiot! First of all, you don't know the personal story about that baby, so please gain some awareness, as you are not qualified to judge this very personal experience. Second, WHAT ON EARTH DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BEING THE PRESIDENT?!! It's astounding, the level of ignorance displayed by so many people (not all those commenting here, of course). By the way, while I won't vote for Santorum or Obama, what I WILL do is use my common sense and critical thinking skills (passe, I know) to investigate, to the best of my ability, the actual records, experience, and directly stated intentions of any of the other candidates, and make the best choice I can. Santorum, Obama and the other candidates are simply representatives of the people (US), not "a Pope, Mullah, Imam, Head Priest or Grand Inquisitor", as Michael so eloquently put it. There IS no canditate who has not at some time been dishonest, made bad decisions, or said something embarrassing. That's just part of being human, and we have all had moments when we lack complete integrity. The point is, make some educated decisions. And by the way, this article, whatever you may think about its accuracy, or its writer, was about an incident that took place at a political event. The ONLY people who can truly say anything meaningful about it (and you have, thanks!) are those who witnessed it themselves. Good God Almighty, please bring us some more intelligent, self-driven, thinking people!!!

Idiot! First of all, you don't know the personal story about that baby, so please gain some awareness, as you are not qualified to judge this very personal experience. Second, WHAT ON EARTH DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BEING THE PRESIDENT?!! It's astounding, the level of ignorance displayed by so many people (not all those commenting here, of course). By the way, while I won't vote for Santorum or Obama, what I WILL do is use my common sense and critical thinking skills (passe, I know) to investigate, to the best of my ability, the actual records, experience, and directly stated intentions of any of the other candidates, and make the best choice I can. Santorum, Obama and the other candidates are simply representatives of the people (US), not "a Pope, Mullah, Imam, Head Priest or Grand Inquisitor", as Michael so eloquently put it. There IS no canditate who has not at some time been dishonest, made bad decisions, or said something embarrassing. That's just part of being human, and we have all had moments when we lack complete integrity. The point is, make some educated decisions. And by the way, this article, whatever you may think about its accuracy, or its writer, was about an incident that took place at a political event. The ONLY people who can truly say anything meaningful about it (and you have, thanks!) are those who witnessed it themselves. Good God Almighty, please bring us some more intelligent, self-driven, thinking people!!!

Hey Joe, The two guys, whether gay or not, only made the outbursts so they would be thrown out. That way they could be seen kissing. It could have been an Art piece but it was just a political stunt. And it worked.

I agree. I have no problem with gays but it is getting tiresome to have there gayness shoved in everyone's face all the time. There is a cost to this. Straights are getting fed up with the implicit idea that they are abnormal if they don't think the gay lifestyle is a wonderful thing.

Joe it seems you have what I call the "Ostrich Syndrome". You seem to live with your head in the sand buried and only look up and see what you want to see. You have a VERY NARROW MINDED look up the gay society as a whole. Gay men and women have wanted equal rights since time began. I do not know where “YOU” got the impression that gay men and women just wanted to be left alone and “do their thing” as you so eloquently put it. Sure they want to be left alone in the case of WITCH HUNTS where they can be fired just for being gay. Can you be fired because you are straight? NO YOU CANNOT. Do you get thrown out because you kiss your wife or girlfriend? NO YOU DO NOT. As is the case here, two gay men kissing in the Santorum Camp is a major disruptive event. Can you visit your wife in the hospital? SURE YOU CAN. Until recently a gay man could not visit his partner in the hospital. Can your wife leave your estate to you without question? Sure she can. Can a gay man leave his estate to his male partner in many states, NO HE CANNOT! Some states can override the will and take the money and give it to whomever protests about it (usually a biological sibling or parent). I suggest you pull your head out of the sand and look around you at the inequalities that still exist in the United States of America which I Proudly choose to call home.

He doesn't live in the dark ages. He is just trying to gain power where ever and however he can. He's an opportunist and a very divisive politician. To be this way a person needs to divide the target group or groups from the masses. That's all he is doing. He is like the two guys kissing, just on the other side of the rope. He is yelling and making as much noise as he can to gain as much power possible. Some will listen and most will not.

xnlover, first, what we seek IS most certainly, liberty for ourselves and those that are being tormented, tortured and imprisoned by their own leaders. We do not take territory and claim it for our own. And, please don't bring up the idea that we took lands from the Native Americans. In their own words, they did not "own" lands and they had no government to overthrow. And, it has little to do with what is happening in the world today. Second, we do set up military bases around the world to keep peace and protect others. "For everyone to whom much is given, of him shall much be required." -- Luke 12:48. Many, many times it is the "people" of these countries that are thankful to see us, even if their government isn't. We can not, in good conscience, stand by and let people be tortured. And third, other nations do have military bases around the world. Those that don't, are either too poor or disinterested in humanitarian works. Would you truly be happy if the United States had no foreign military bases and were not involved in worldly associations? Would you still feel safe, and free to do as you please? Do you think each country should "mind their own business?"

What the hell did you just say?! I cannot decipher one meaningful sentence from your comment. Anyone?

huh??

Hey -- If men don't have to pay for their own vasectomies or Viagra (Yes, both are covered by health insurance) why should women have to pay for their own birth control pills?

A. M. Kelly, the female version of vasectomy would be tubal ligation or hysterectomy, not birth control pills. And insurance companies do pay for those surgeries. I also do not believe Viagra should be covered by insurance.

Sounds like you're destroying the good fortune of your dream one thought at a time.

mmbottles is totally correct! Lets' stop with all this negative talking and get Mitt Romney in office who is a BUSINESS MAN and INTELLIGENT and will LISTEN TO AMERICANS!!!

Ummm, no - this is the OPINION.

From Merriam-Webster:
Fact (3) the quality of being actual: ACTUALITY <a question of fact hinges on evidence>

That's nice, but your view aside, I hear NO one on the Right getting "outraged" over men getting their Viagra covered and I'm not surprised.
Given that Right Wing men except themselves from the limits they want to put on women, you can bet no one WILL hear any opposing it, either, especially since their Mouthpiece Rush Limbaugh was found with a prescription for it recently

Are you suggesting Jesus would encoourage someone to attend an event designed to acquaint the public with a hopeful leader''s ideas and then intentionally disrupt it with a tactic intended to cause conflict and calculated to further a homosexual agenda among familes whose own faith tradition (based on the teachings of Jesus himself) confirms that homosexuality is a grievious sin?

I wholeheartedly disagree with your assertion that Jesus came to teach love and that this means "anything goes" or you are hateful. If you wish to be Biblical, Jesus came to seek and to save that which was lost. Not one time do we read of Jesus endorsing unscriptural behavior (aka. sin). He confronted it and always said, "Go and sin no more." I can assure you that based upon what Scripture tells us, Jesus would in no way approve of these two guys. Yes, he would love them, but he would rebuke their behavior. Christianity does NOT mean "anything goes."

Love in no way means you agree with everything somebody does. Ask any parent that. If a kid breaks curfew by staying out 2 hours late, does a parent say, "Oh that's ok, as long as you are happy." Or does the parent punish that child. Or would punishing be "hate"....Some people seem to be "haters of Christians" because of rude comments and name-calling I've seen.That comes closer to hate than just disagreeing with someone.

And yes, Jesus did teach love. But look at some things my loving Savior did:

Mark 10:17-22 - A rich ruler came to Jesus asking him what to do to inherit eternal life. He had kept all the commandments. Jesus told him one thing lacked was he needed to sell all he had. Jesus knew he loved his riches more too much. The man went away sad. Does this sound like a nice and loving thing Jesus did?
Mark 11:15-18 - He was so angry at the money changers in the temple who were selling animals for sacrifice, he turned over all their tables and drove them out, and said "Is it not written, ‘MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER FOR ALL THE NATIONS’? But you have made it a ROBBERS’ DEN.” He was hated for doing this. Yes, Jesus loves people, but he doesn't always love what they do.
Matthew 19:3-9 - Jesus here actually told some people that, "whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” Can you imagine that? I know there are people today that would call that hateful.

Disagreeing is not necessarily hating.

Santorum doesn't have a problem what anyone does in the privacy of their bedroom. I have attended many campaign rallies and have never seen anyone kissing. These rallies are almost always electrically charged with exuberant exictement and the last thing most people think about in such an environement is kissing. These guys were planted in a PUBLIC forum of which there were people in attendance who follow the dictates and commands contained in the Holy Scriptures and they would not want their children witnessing behavior which they find immoral. It should no more be forced upon them than a gay man being forced to take a woman as a life partner. The problem with gays in this current society is not whats good for the goose is good for the gander, its whats good for the goose is good for goose and screw the gander. Kind of a pathetically selfish mentality.

Try telling Rick Santorum that.. He is a damn HYPOCRITE.

Here, here!

Jesus also taught that you should pluck out your eye if it offended you. Yes, he said self amputation was OK. What a stupid idea.

Berrygal, I hear you! Nobody needs to hate anyone, that goes both ways.

Please -- we have bigger problems in this country than the "god, guns, and gays" agenda the right wingers want to focus on...If you didn't hear the first part of Santorum's speech, he was trashing Medicare, Unemployment Insurance and other programs middle class people use, pay for, and benefit from...THAT is where my biggest problem with him and the other Reich Wingers lies....If I want religion, I'll get it in church, who needs his preaching?....Santorum is just another tool of the Right Wing who wants to destroy the middle class and turn us into a Two Tier Society like those existing in India and many Third World Countries. In those countries, you have a small number of very rich people and a HUGE class of poor. We don't want this in our country. We need a STRONG middle class Santorum actually wants to do away with public schools...Riiiiight.. If a family can't "pay" to have their kids got to a private school, maybe, as Newt Gingrich says, we can dump our Child Labor Laws and have kids slopping out toilets instead of going to school...These people are TOXIC.

Praise God we did elect W - twice!! But I agree with you, for we did elect Obama too.

Never say never, but Santorum makes Dubya look like a Liberal!...These right wing extremists want to take us back to the 19th century!...I don't think he could EVER win a general election, but you're right in saying that you can't take anything for granted.

No, that's not true, the tactics would not be necessary if not for the hatred that already exists against gay people. Why can't people just mind their OWN business? No one asked them to be gay, just allow gays the same freedoms and rights the rest of us have, that's all.

That's right Rob. But the gays aren't relaxed enough to do that. Most (not all) have Daddy issues as I understand from research but that animosity is real and needs healing. That's why we need to "not" be that way.

Right on. I guess no one should think it is anything but normal to have sex with you dog in public if you really love him. Hmmmmmmm.

Hey Joe, The Spanish owned part of our county before and it was the language then. Canada has the French. Switzerland's language is made from Italian, French and German dialects. I think the foundation of any culture is more basic than language Joe. Try law and order. If someone slits your throat it doesn't matter what language either one of you were speaking. I do agree that English should be a national language because no one can really take advantage of what this country is about without speaking and understanding English not because we need to defend our language.

Joe, No tiene Ud. la verdad. Hay muchas países en el mundo donde hablan más de solamente una lengua. Esos países están haciendo muy bien.
Joe, you don't know much about the world, I see. Let me educate you. Russia, China, South Africa, Australia, France, Canada, Ireland, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Israel, Spain, Morocco, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Malawi, Mozambique, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Haiti, Kenya, Congo, DR Congo, Cote D'Ivoire, and the United Kingdom aka England are just SOME of the countries where multi-lingualism prevails. That list includes a MAJORITY of the population now living on earth. So it not only is a good idea, it is the STANDARD MODE of living on earth. Monoglottal countries are the minority, and since you are sooooo into kicking minorities, you should be screaming that America sucks because YOU can't speak Spanish.
Your Anglochauvinistic attitude, frankly, is disgusting, Joe. By all rights, the proper language of this state should be Pottawattomie, but I don't see you all worked up for the TRUE native rights. Because you're a HYPOCRITE. Shame on you.
Your "second" argument isn't an argument at all. It's like you wanted to crap on the page but then ran out of crap. Use a tissue, Joe.
Now what were "those 'guys'" kissing for? To protest Santorum's homophobic statements. He calls gays monsters. They kissed and did not breathe fire. Another myth busted.

part 2:

We get it, Joe. The Bill of Rights gives those "guys" rights. Santorum crapped on them. He needs to lose. He will lose.

Oh Please...Do you think the Palatine Patch is a "Far left liberal Agenda" newspaper?....If you do, you're beyond help!...Frankly, I doubt you even KNOW what a "Far Left Liberal Agenda" is.
Ever heard of Franklin D. Roosevelt?...Historians rank him as the second or third GREATEST president in American History and he was far more "left" and "liberal" than Obama is, or ever could be...Please educate yourselves!

A.M. Kelly, On F.D.R. Some of the far left historians would like you to think that's the deal but just as many if not more believe he was one of the worst. His leveraging on the country, devaluing the currency, confiscating peoples personal gold (theft) and legislative policies made the recession a depression and then Great Depression. Many world renowned economists prove it. Obama is doing some of the same moves but if he has his way it will be socialism that prevails in the end. Our senior citizens that are on fixed incomes find their monthly budget now buys much less. You need to understand that printing trillions of new dollars that are backed by nothing makes all the dollars worth less. All of you unbelievers will find out in time but right now what money you have in the bank (maybe you don't have any) is worth measurably less than it was before the grand money printing of Bernanke and Obama. You think $4.00 plus gas is a lot, you haven't seen anything yet. Food prices (do you buy food?) haven't leveled off yet and won't for a few years. Price any chocolate lately? It's only going to get worse. The Obama lead government is buying back it's own bonds at the bond auctions because China and other countries don't want to buy dollars anymore because the dollars they have are depreciating fast. Obama wants America to be a socialist country and we are staged to become that as long as people don't wake up. Vladamir Putin stated, America is becoming more socialist than Russia.

No joke. Take a step back. Historians are generally a conservative lot who, based on what he accomplished, rate FDR as one of the best presidents along with Washington and Lincoln. He lead the country through a depression and a world war. Yes, it was a depression when FDR became president in 1933 and not a recession. The stock market crashed in 1929. These dates are facts and not opinions of "far left historians".
Obama did not take over the banks or the means of production, so calling him a socialist is silly.
Whatever the Federal Reserve did or did not accomplish with their policy of quantitative easing, it was not an effort to compensate for China and other countries not wanting to buy our bonds. The US has not scared anybody away from buying bonds. That is why the interest rate remains so low. The bond market is a market! If nobody wanted to buy the bonds, the interest rates would have to be raised to get get somebody to buy them.
Real things happen in the real world. It isn't all Republican talking points presented on Fox News.
In answer to your questions, ..Sorry, to disappoint you, but in fact, I do "have money in the bank", quite a bit, actually since I've been working for over thirty five years and am near retirement. Now I have some questions: Do you have a parent or grandparents receiving Social Security?...Do they have Medicare?....If so, you and they have Franklin D. Roosevelt and the Democratic Party to thank.

Hey A.M. Kellly, F.D.R was one of the worst presidents and Obama is right there as well. It's no mystery. You probably won't live long enough to see that proved as Obamacare will be denying you coverage on a forthcoming medical need because of your age you will be told it's not cost affective and you also won't be able to buy it with all that money you have in the bank because Obamacare forbids it. You probably don't know this and also you will have mandatory death counseling instead. Oh yeah, if you have all that money you need to leave it in the bank as it will be worth a lot less soon. The QE's have marginalized the dollar and it will continue. When the dollar looses it's place as the world's reserve currency the price of gas will go through the roof and everything will be costing more than you can imagine. Every country in the world since WWII have had to stock the dollar in order to buy commodities and the U.S. has printed money with no regrets. Soon and very, very soon if Obama stays in office that will all change. No country will need to stock the dollar and everyone will be dumping it. It's obvious you don't understand commodities or currencies. The Fed sets interest rates A.M. but that will change with the dollar becoming a past world currency. Interest rates will hit the roof as no one will want to keep the dollar. Right now the U.S. is buying back their own bonds. You are uninformed and that's O.K. because your going to loose a lot of money.

Be careful Jeanne. I remember 4 years ago when they said that Obama didn't have a chance either.

Why do you say Santorum has zero chance of being president of the United States? Is it because he is a CHRISTIAN? Do you have any clue how many Christians RAN into war shoulder to shoulder with soldiers of every other denomination in the two world wars and all other wars? They ran to defend YOU and to safe guard the freedoms you enjoy every day of your life! Are you saying its ok with you for Christians to make supreme sacrifices and RUN into war to defend you and your family from evil enemies, but not ok for Christians to RUN for office of president. Well, I got news for you! The next time an enemy that would rather behead you than look at you attacks your country, many Christians may not be there to defend you. They may seek conscientious objector status because in reality they have every right to do so: THOU SHALT NOT KILL!

This has nothing to do with Santorum being a Christian. It has to do with his homophobic and bigoted beliefs. Did you hear him say the other day that he will get all pornographic material banned from the internet? The man is a radical conservative. I know hundreds of good Christian men and women who look at pornographic material weekly. Are they bad Christians, of course not? Does Santorum have the right to try to impose his will and beliefs on the rest of the country, of course not? Enough Said

Hey "no joke" I'm starting to think you are a "joke"...First, please understand the difference between "fact" and fear mongering "assertions" you couldn't back up if you tried.
I'm sorry you're so paranoid as to think President Obama is trying to kill me (and you) with "Obamacare"...Apparently you missed the memo from the president that said "If you have private health insurance you like, you can keep it"...duh...Ditto for the "Mandatory Death Counseling" (!)....Is that supposed to sound like a "reasonable" adjustment to the hillarious "Death Panel" crap Faux News was pushing awhile ago?

There's no hope for you wimps...You're scared shitless of a "black" president and that's where all your paranoid fantasies spring from, LOL.

By the way, you never answered the question: Are your parents and/or grandparents collecting Social Security benefits and Medicare?....Why not tell them to send it back so they can be free of "big gubmint"?...You can then listen to them tell you to GET YOUR HEAD examined afterwards, LOL.

Hey, no joke?...You're really funny...You say "you are uninformed but "that's O.K. because your going to "loose" a lot of money"....Um..I'm "uninformed"?...Bro, you can't even SPELL: it's not "loose", genius, it's "lose"...."Loose" is what pants are!

James Doyle is seriously misled by FOX, et al. For his info, Obamacare is going to cost even less than they thought it would and will actually reduce, yes reduce the costs to all of us. Preventative care is always cheaper and is already reaping the rewards. Secondly, TARP was not Obama's deal...it was Bush. Obama bailed out the auto industry, much to the disgust of the right, but they paid it back with interest and have now become more successful than they have been in about 40 years. Then he stated that he is tired of higher taxes, but Obama cut taxes to the lowest levels since 1951, so not sure what planet he is living on. James, get the real news, look at the actual factual statistics and numbers. Heck, just talk to your tax man or look at your tax returns. Ignorance like yours inexcusable. Obama is showing to have been right about everything and now the economy is starting to show it...Wallstreet is up higher than it has been since 2007, before the crash, housing is recovering. Employment numbers are better than they have been since early 2008. Apparently, you really don't care about the economy because if you did, you would be shouting re-elect Obama 2012!

The cornerstone of the Democrats’ argument for health care reform was helping to insure those people with pre-existing conditions that could not find coverage. So they twisted arms, paid off senators and congressman, and rammed through a 2000+ page monstrosity that will cost somewhere around a trillion bucks, (borrowed from China). All of that so 8,011 people could sign up for pre-existing coverage. That’s right. 8,011 people! Of course that's not what it's really about or it wouldn't have taken over two thousand pages.

Nancy, you are so uninformed. It's laughable. If B.O. gets in again you're going to find out just how wrong you are. I am still laughing. You are so very uninformed it's not worth the effort with people like you because it's over the cliff following the lies and deception. That's O.K. you can go but don't take the rest of us with you please. Over two thousand pages of legislation that hasn't kicked in and when it does the masses will be moaning.

The right wing dummies believe it....The fact is, at least HALF of the founding fathers were "Deists", not Christians and, in any case "Christian principles" are not much different than "Jewish principles" or "Buddhist principles", for that matter...These are people who rarely get out of their own little circles of people raised just like they were...They don't travel and are rarely, if ever, exposed to people who are "different". They then think everyone who doesn't LOOK like them, Talk like them, PRAY like them, are "inferior" and/or "scary".....They're fearful, frightened little people without much education or exposure to the world.

Well first of all your first part about him not wanting to institute his beliefs is wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfo4RYBTNfM

Where do you get this stuff? Obama had nothing to do with AIG -- that was Bush. The "car complanies" have not been "nationalized". GM was LOANED $$ just as BUSH loaned the BANKS $$. Obama has not "tripled the National Debt". The Debt was $10.6 Trillion on 1/20/09 when he took office. It came with interest of 1/3 of a Trillion per Yr...(4x1/3 trillion = $1.3 Trillion) and Bush had already implimented the Budget for '09...with a $1.25 TRillion Deficit that went right to the Debt. The Debt now stands @ just over $14 Trillion. Control what our kids eat? Like the government has always done via our school nutrition programs? Oil production is up 50% since Obama has taken office, but you're complaining about regulation. What a bunch of rot.

JimBear you are right on 4 more years of obama and we will all be riding the ass for transportation.

Perfect Jimbear!

First, the auto industry bail out WORKED and they have repaid every dime to the government. The government has no ownership stake in the car companies. The bail out did NOT nationalize the auto industry. The President, ANY President has the right to make recess appointments. Bush did it also. And what was Obama to do? The House Repugs have been blocking appointments of judges since Obama was elected. They have even been blocking very minor government jobs that are Presidential appointments. They have done everything they can to block or hold up any action of President Obama's. He has the constitutional right to make recess appointments. President Obama did not dictate the pay of corporate bigwigs, whatever gave you that false fact? He did make a deal with any corporation that received a bailout that corporate bonuses would be held up until they repaid the money owed to the government. You must listen to Limbaugh a lot because you are repeating his outrageous lies. And when did Obama tell you what your kids can and can't eat? The Dept. of the Agriculture HAS tried to improve the nutrition in school meals, you object to that? It's up to you if you don't want your children to get at least one healthy meal a day. Anyone threaten to put you in jail because you refused to let your child eat school lunch? And last I heard there has been no law put on the books dictating what car you must drive or did I miss something there?

Obama really needs to think things through when he says things about the GOP because his words can come back to haunt him. Recently he said, "if GOP was around when Columbus set sail, they'd belong to the 'flat earth' society not believing the earth is round. Well, Obama doesn't believe that what is in a pregnant woman's womb is a baby. He claims he is a Christian, if this is true, he should know the elementary Holy Spirit inspired Gospel verse where Elizabeth says, "upon your arrival the BABY in my womb leaped for joy." (Luke 1:41) If Obama was there when Mary found herself pregnant and unmarried he and his planned parenthood ilk would have been hounding her to get an abortion because THEY belong to the "kill it cuz it ain't a baby" society. One day it will be proven without a scintilla of doubt that all these millions of abortions really did kill BABIES. Doubtful it will matter to pro abortion folks because inwardly they know its true already.

This is interesting and you may think so too. Groupon this morning has offered: Up to 53% Off 3-D/4-D Ultrasound in Lombard
3-D ultrasounds grant expectant parents a preview their child's face without the need to make a crayon rubbing on its mother's belly. Save crayons for future kids with this Groupon. I did a copy and paste on the description of the offer. Groupon even has an image to look at with a picture of the mom. So once again the baby is called a child and this time by Groupon. Why you ask? Because it is a child. Just because you can't hear the silent scream that the child makes when the abortionist kills him or her doesn't negate the humanity of the child. Yes he or she feels being killed, that's been documented. What a price you anti- life people will pay when you meet our maker.

You characterize Obama and the Left as wanting "to take away our liberty (how we spend our money, what we drive , what our kids eat, control our healthcare and restrict our energy choices)"..and then tell Gay Americans that "You can't just define your lifestyle by your terms"....How is that different from what you say Obama is doing to the rest of us?....If Gays "can't define" their "lifestyle" on their terms, why should the rest of us be able to?....You bristle at the idea of people telling straights what to do, but then tell Gays that "you can't define your lifestyle on your terms"...Well, why NOT?...Why can STRAIGHTS do that, but Gays not do that?...We're all citizens under the law, so how do you defend this?

Hey Martin you and Nancy should get together. You both are so polar and wrong but that's O.K. becasue Obama is all about smoke and mirrors and you can't see throught the fog.

Your prejudice is showing.

Would you call a man and a woman kissing "crass" if it was in front of someone opposed to it? What about an interracial kiss?

You can say you do not care, but when you use a term to describe the kiss that you would not for a straight couple, you are displaying your true prejudice.

LOL!!

I feel the same way about the Hannity followers out there.....

Sandy, if you are going to compare Santorum to someone, then at least give examples. Your statement is just open hate with no substance. Also, contrary to your belief, the "entire United States", is not made up of democrats. There are many, many who do not agree with you and are not democrats.

amen!

William Dove, you get an A+ for using your brains. You are nobody's fool.

Sorry William Dove, but a scientific study just CONFIRMED what most of us knew and that is that conservatism is linked with LOW I.Q.s....Maybe that's why, in Santorum's view, they don' need no "snob" college education, Lol.

Yeah, maybe even straight guys can kiss each other. It'll make Santorum crap his pants.

And the Dem lovers In N. Illinois are Union Lovers- And the Union Teachers in That part of Illinois are making over $75,000/yr with Benefits and many making More and All the other Unions trades are making even More..So no Wonder they support Obama. wouldn't you? Same goes for Just a Few Miles North, in Wi., they want to throw out Their New Gov. Walker- Republican to cutting the Union workers Incomes and forcing them to start paying for some of their Free Benefits..I'd want ot thorw anyone out that did that to me too!

Say it loud, Geneva's racist, sexist, homophobic, and proud! Get down with your bad self, Geneva.
No, really. Get down. Go.

Please go back to school and learn how to speak and write English.

Tim, I remember Tea Party whackadoodles doing the very same thing to leftwing politicians in 2010. Where were you then? Did you speak out against them?
Thought not.

You haven't been following the campaign much, have you Steve? Santorum is kind of famous for hating gays. They were there to protest that. Please stay awake and wander off of Fox News every once in a while to get the facts. Thanks

I agree with 95% of what you said. Thank You. However, very few if any political events or rallies go on without some kind of interruption to the speakers speech. It happens all the time. My son just called me three days ago to remind me that he and his wife have been married 16 years now. He told me the "Current" statistics about marriages are that 60% are now over within four years. Very Sad. When my wife and I divorced at 8 years, not one of the married couples we knew when we got married were still married. You can also let people know please that gay parents have not ever been identified as child abusers, sexually, physical or otherwise. Gay parents have to fight hard to have a child and they feel blessed when they are given the opportunity and do their best for the child.

Hey Craig... I don't think it backfired. You're talking about it , aren't you? Besides, on January 21, 2013 we will be welcoming President Obama for his second term. The two loser republican frontrunners don't have a chance in HELL. Santorum got beat by double digits the last time he ran and Mitt didn't even run for reelection because his approval ratings were so low. (27 % plus or minus)

Where is the lusting after sex like dogs in heat? Sign me up. Could use a good $#$$^%$

I'm with you on that one Kenneth!!! Its amazing how the majority of people around the world want to puke when two men kiss ... and they somehow still feel it's "OK".

OK Kenneth I will grant you that Santorum is a sick individual trying to push his abnormal behavior, but Newt Gingrich wasn't even there! That's so unfair of you to pick on him.

Also, I am ashamed that other people chanted "U-S-A!" as the men were being ejected. It's sad. Why do we use patriotism in this way? What's patriotic about it?

do tell ... what good to gays and lesbo's serve in society? they are so dumb they haven't figured out what a penis and vagina are for yet?

Kate Perhaps the people shouting USA were reminding Rick Santorum, Mr. Freedom of of Speech, that this is America and the two young men being led out of the gymnasium were entitled to their right to call him on his intolerance. They were in essence saying "Santorum! This is the USA! Where gays are people too! And have the right to kiss in public just like anyone else! Quick! Stop those free-speech-squelching security guards before they trample on these two young men's civil rights!"

Or maybe they were just a bunch of homophobic right-wing whackadoodles yelling out random letters of the alphabet. It's hard to tell.

Come again?

We feel the same way about obummer........

Gloria, before you call people stupid, please learn basic grammar, learn how to spell, and please stop putting apostrophes where they don't belong. It will make your drivel easier to understand. Thank you.

.... for one thing it makes the majority of people around the world want to PUKE WHEN THEY SEE IT!!!

well don't act like democrats don't do the same thing. Biden talked so much crap about Obama during the primary

Hey Mike, this has been going on since the beginning of our country. Remember our first president, well he was a member of what became the Republican party. He refused to run for more terms because of the Kings in Europe. Obama would love to throw out everything in the constitution, declare martial law, have the military throw the congress out and be a dictator. There has always been a division of those that wanted a overly strong central (federal) government, Democrats and those that wanted more freedom and the states to have more rights, Republicans. Well that's what the parties eventually became known as. The progressives (Dem.) of a hundred years ago are responsible for the federal income tax, it was then billed much as what Obama stated; wealth redistribution, let's keep spreading the wealth were it isn't. Still hasn't worked but they keep trying. '08 it was Hillary and Obama. This time it's the other party. Romney will win. And probably the general. B.O. is a very shrewd and seasoned politician but he isn't for America, not the free one that we have known. His lies should be exposed in the coming months. The problem although is the diehards, unions, teachers, medical industry and lawyers etc. will go over a cliff following B.O. taking this country with them. They're all getting a slice of the spoils from B.O.'s legislation. Trillions in new paper dollars distributed, that's where much of the stimulus went. If you're republican you get an audit. Criminal. Jail for B.O.

No You seem to be the idiot. Gay people are not set back by these two guys kissing. This bigot Santorum just proved himself to the American Public. You will ONLY be treated fairly if you see things his way.

AMEN

and CONTINUED at a pace 5 times HIGHER BY OBUMMER!!!!

So, please tell me, how bad was Bush compared to obummer?

ANSWER BUSH WAS VERY BAD TO AMERICA. HE LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE WORLD SO HE COULD RAID IRAW FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL VENDETTA. IRAQ had NOTHING to do with Sept 11.
You ask what worth do Homosexuals have in society?? Maybe your mother or your father or sister or brother is gay. Maybe your best friend is gay? School mate?? Ask them..You probably say. OH I WOULD KNOW. Yeah Right. They certainly would not tell a bigot like you. YOU DON’T KNOW CRAP. Homosexuals are all productive members of society and are historically better parents to children than straight people. Some of the world’s greatest war heroes were gay. So were some of the most famous actors and scientists. Do some research instead of opening your big mouth with such a ludicrous question/statement?

Your just a dumb ignorant ass. thats all there is too it.

They pay taxes and support the economy. The work jobs and are a contributing member to society. They adopt children that nobody else will adopt.

But, are you saying that one's worth is only equal to their fertility? Because gays don't reproduce, they are worthless? Because, I doubt you know this due to how stupidly ignorant you are, we do have infertile men and women in this country in addition to straight couples who choose to be childfree.

P.S it's homos, not homo's. Homo's shows possession. Please, for the sake of humanity, open your mind and gain an education.

Well lo and behold! Thanks Brian for posting this video...proof that these idiots were already being thrown out of the rally for their rude outburst, then they decided to simply make a spectacle of themselves by locking lips. Case closed! I've seen this tactic used on numerous occasions at prolife rallies my family attended, and much worse. As a matter of fact, at one rally we attended in Ohio the public lewdness of the same-sex perverts so frightened and traumatized my daughter that she burst into tears. Thankfully, some real men stood up and formed a human wall to shield our children from the obscene acts that were taking place in front of their innocent eyes. This type of public display seems to be a pattern of behavior that is committed by those who want to flaunt their perversion in public. Homosexuality is a destructive lifestyle, but I will fight for their freedom to pursue that kind of relationship as long as they are not being publicly offensive to the rest of us.

Betty you are exaggerating. Nobody was fooling around or groping as you put it. It was just a KISS. ONE KISS. Plain and simple. GET OVER YOURSELF. If your husband or boyfriend kissed you, SHOULD YOU BE LOCKED UP OR THROWN OUT? ..Do you even have a BF or Husband to kiss you? GROW UP LADY. NOONE GROPED OR LICKED OR EXTENDED KISSING OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT. MEN kiss Women in public all the time and that’s just okay.. huh?? Why do 90% of supposed Straight men like watching two women having sex so much? Huh?? Or are you even aware of the statistics?
Your comments is idiotic and you need to go back and read the article. NOTHING HAPPENED. Except in your screwed up mind.

i dont see whay they have to flaunt it . its only asking for trouble.i know if i was at a event i would not be all over my wife . its looks cheep and it says screw you i can do what i want. so some nut sees this and goes after them and someone gets hurt. i have a good friend who is as queer as a three dollor bill but she keeps it in her house .and she is a knock out .i tryed many time but she kicks my a3S.LOL BUT SHE DOESNT WANT TO CAUSE A SEEN OR BE SINGLED OUT. AND SHES RIGHT.

Hey mikie strombla .. Gay peopel are not flauntingit. When you hold hands or kiss your girlfriend in public ... ARE YOU FLAUNTING YOUR HETROSEXUALITY? HELL NO. You are showing yoru love and affection for the person you are with. That is the whole point. Should some nut as you say go and shoot or kill you for kissing your girlfriend or holding hands with her HUH??? THINK ABOUT IT..

You're not totally bigoted at all, are you? *rolls eyes*

Eight talking points in one post. Good job! I'm a Republican and I warrant the fact that I do not hate women. You maybe for your displayed ignorance but not women and same for your other seven points of babble.

You seem to have gotten some Obamanite in your eyes. We do no that America. It is not the Republicans who are giving the Terrorist countries $billions and the American people zip. It is not the Republicans who froze our Social Security for three years, while wanting $17,000 pay raises. It is not the Republicans who want to put all the illegals in America in housing and welfare, while we are out of work. It is not the Republicans who are trying to separate America from Israel, our only real ally. While paying Palestine $900,000,000 so they can fight Israel. Palestine like other Arab countries has known Terrorists as government now. The unions are what drives our prices skyhigh, and costs us $30,000 for a Car, when it was $1,795.00 in the '60s. Time to wake up and smell the Bull Crap you are spewing out of your mouth.

LOL.

Are you mentally sick? There is so much wrong with what you said...I can't even comprehend. You Christians crack me up. Hypocritical cherry-pickers is all you are.

LORD LADY YOU ARE ONE SICK COOKIE....Did God make you lady?? IF HE DID HE SURE MADE A BIG MISTAKE. ....... Wait a minute.. God does not make mistakes. He also made homosexual people too Right.... LIKE I SAID.. GOD DOES NOT MAKE MISTAKES... You might try to remember when women were considered to be LESS THAN MEN?? When women could not vote. When women’s opinions did not matter. THINK ABOUT IT LADY…

I am with you. As for this Mike, he is really confused. God does not make Homosexuals. They make themselves. He needs to read Scripture, before speaking blasphemies about God, who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for the same things America is allowing today.

Russell Palmer you really are ignorant, aren't you? As I said READ THE ENTIRE BIBLE, not just the parts you want to read. GOD DOES MAKE HOMOSEXUALS. There are so many idiots that think being gay is a choice. Who in the hell in their right mind would choose to undergo all this torture and ridicule. Very likely ONLY YOU RUSSELL.

Hush, Russell. You need to re-read your Bible. Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed by homosexual acts. They were destroyed because the people of Sodom and Gomorrah were sexually abusive. If the angels had been female, would it condemn heterosexuality? No. Read this, be enlightened: http://wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/sodom_and_gomorrah.html

Also, if we were such a "Christian" country, why is shellfish legal? Divorce? Why was slavery abolished? I ask these questions constantly and no Christian has an answer for me. Why? Because they pick the Bible quotes that suit their interests and ignore the rest. Hypocrites.

Hey Katelyn, Are you serious? "Also, if we were such a "Christian" country, why is shellfish legal? Divorce? Why was slavery abolished?" You're not making sense. You probably don't know yourself. I don't believe Anita Hynds is for real. Say her name a few times and maybe you will understand. No Christian I have ever known would state something like that. It's a plant or I should say Anita is a prankster.

No joke, I'm not making sense? The Bible clearly says that shellfish and divorce are immoral. Also, the Bible clearly states that slavery is legal. Do I have to find the verses for you? So, yes I am making sense. Like I said, re-read your Bible and be educated. Even me, an atheist, know more than you in regards to Christianity.

We are not all that stupid!
Just 32%

Yes

Santorum's turn is next. TO BE THROWN RIGHT OUT WITH THE TRASH. Romney will win the nomination. The Republicans would not be stupid enough to let Santorum get the nomination. He is too much of a Right Wing Conservative Idiot.

Do you hate your mother, father, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, best friend, business associate, minister, black men or black women, latino men or black women, white men or black women? They are all out there with homosexuals living right alongside you and you do not even know it. You very likely care very deeply about a homosexual and do not even know it. I find that people who espouse to hate homosexuals are afraid to deal with their own internal feelings about their own sexual questions. I highly suggest that you take a good look in a mirror and see what you hate about yourself! Then talk to your relatives. SOMEONE IN YOUR INNER CIRCLE IS DEFINITELY A HOMOSEXUAL. They are just afraid to let you know about it.

I am with you Hugh. Anyone who thinks Homosexuality is normal, is really missing a link. Even nature shows it is not normal. As for Mike's comments here, from his speaking it appears he may be Homosexual. He gets very irritated when anyone speaks against it. They do not go out and attack people with guns and such as he says, but they do bed hop over ten times the Heterosexuals. They attack people with AIDS. This is worse than guns, as with guns, you will more than likely just die if shot. AIDS is much different.

Two members of the same sex loving each other is equivalent to the millions killed in the holocaust? Are you serious?

Russell, really? Gays attack others with AIDs? Male to Male contact and injection drug use accounts for 31,822 of all AIDs diagnosis in 2008 compared to 41,467 in high-risk heterosexual contact. I don't know where you get your facts from, but they are really wrong.

Source: http://www.avert.org/usa-race-age.htm

Russell you are making up information here and putting words in people’s mouths that they have not said. You are clearly uninformed. Since the AIDS crisis started, the decline in transmission of the HIV virus has declined in the gay population and INCREASED in the heterosexual population. Check for facts on the internet and almost any library for information. Gay men do not go bed hopping intentionally giving other people AIDS. You seem to have a warmed perception of reality and what gay people are all about.
I just happen to know a lot of gay people in work and in life. Whether I am gay or not is not a point. I have a right to get irritated when ignorant persons like you spread false information about gay people. It is idiots like you stating…..” They do not go out and attack people with guns and such as he says, but they do bed hop over ten times the Heterosexuals. They attack people with AIDS. This is worse than guns, as with guns, you will more than likely just die if shot. AIDS is much different.” Gay people DO NOT go and intentionally infect other gay people with HIV. The INCREASE in the HIV Diagnosis is in the heterosexual population, not the gay population.
Additionally Katelyn there is a distinct difference between someone being HIV Positive and having the AIDS diagnosis. Both populations are tracked differently. Once someone is diagnosed with HIV, then and “IF” they transition to the AIDS category the numbers change around to reflect so.

Trying to get you to learn anything Russell is like talking to a Baboon.

Sully what many people do not realize is that is how the Pink Triangle came about in the 1940's. Hitler was also hunting down, persecuting and killing anyone he thought might be a homosexual.

Jimmy, Have you ever heard of a courteous Homosexual? They will actually go have sex with others, even their own kind, when they know they have aids, and not care what it does. They have a rating of some having over a thousand different bed partners in a years time, and bragging about it. They are not personally attached, they just want to have sex in a very obscene fashion, and not care with whom it is. Life span of Homosexuals is between 45 and 55 years on average.

Mike, this is "This Russell Palmer" you were speaking about/. First of, are you really homosexual? It seems our (straight guy's,) comments really stirred up an ire in you. It is not I who condemn the Gays, as you so eloquently refer to Homosexuals, but God Himself. I never once said I was for women not being virgins. I believe that would be a wonderful thing. Perhaps we could get some decency back in America? Lets face fact: Sin is Sin. God created this world, and made man and woman to become one in Holy Marriage. How can anyone claim two same sex people can be married, when it was for tow of the opposite sex, like the polarity of a magnet? Like poles reject, opposites attract. For anyone to get right with God, they have to turn from their sin, and repent. Accepting the fact they have sinned, then accept Jesus Christ's sacrifice as paying for those sins. Pure and simple. Sinners are dropping towards Hell of their own accord. God simply sent Jesus for a ROPE TO CATCH THEM AND SAVE THEM FROM THAT FALL. but, THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE ROPE,. Otherwise, they cannot be pulled up. People so many times condemn God and His Christians, for providing them a salvation from an eternal death. Why? We do not force anyone to stop falling into Hell. Just offer them a rope.

THANK YOU. There are so many idiots that think being gay is a choice. Who in the hell in their right mind would choose to undergo all this torture and ridicule.

Did you know that Clinton signed DOMA to prevent a very reactionary congress from sending a constitutional amendment to the states. And was so embarased that he signed it at midnight?
Or that Don't ask Don't tell was a rookies attempt at compromise?
Doesn't really matter, DOMA has been found un-constitutional!
Snap!
Final question, why is Richy Poo SOOOO obsessed with sex?

Jim you are an ignorant idiot. Gay people are NOT uncomfortable with who they are. It is the homophobes like YOU who are so distraught inside themselves that they have to constantly attack gay men verbally or physically. Gays are not militant. If gay people were militant they would be holding rallies and shooting straight homophobic guys like you.
Of course being gay has nothing to do with color or race or gender. There are gay men and women in ALL RACES AND COLORS. So my ignorant (supposedly) straight friend, I highly suggest you get an education and learn something. I bet you just love to sit and watch women having sex with women, like 95% of straight men do huh?? Admit it.. it probably turns you on! Gay is Gay, man with man or woman with woman. Who knows, you might be getting turned on yourself typing all this information you think you know about gay men. You are an idiot if you think gay men do not feel comfortable around supposedly straight men. It is the straight men who have such a problem with it because you are likely fighting inside yourself your own secret gay desires.

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You really need to do some studying. First off, TARP was pushed for Bush to sign by the Democrats. Second, in Bush's 8 years, (of which he inherited a big debt from Clinton,) he spent $4.6 Trillion. Which is too much. BUT, since Obama has been in office, he has spent $6 Trillion in three years! He is supporting Palestine in their fight with Israel, and Palestine is a verified Terrorist country, which has actually never been a country. The people there are whoever the other Arab countries has exiled and will not let them come back. Obama is trying to force Israel to allow Palestine to move in and take their country over. He wants Israel to go back to the 1967 era, when they had just become a Nation again. Look up the National debt for countries we are supporting: Egypt. $1.5 Billion per year, Russian Communist countries, Mexico, Palestine, and many more. None of whom ever pay us back anything.

Russel Palmer are you insane??? Bush inherited a BUDGET SURPLUS from Bill Clinton NOT A DEFICIT. What an Idiot. YOU are the one who needs to do some studying. DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN THE WORLD. When BUSH took office he immediately stopped the peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine. Osama Bin Laden had stated in one of his tapes that is the main reason that he decided to go ahead with his plans to bomb the World Trade Center…. So in effect George W Bush is responsible for 911. Do you not know your history either?? Palestine occupied those lands long before the Israelis did, but not as a sovereign country. We also give Israel about $3 BILLION a year too. I have been to those regions numerous times in the 1990’s and early 2000’s. That entire region of the world has been at some kind of war since time began. I do not believe that there will ever be Peace in the Middle East. They all talk they want, it but that is the way of life for them all.

Cheryl and Lisa,

Should this not be handled as with an investment of which the tax payers were forced to put up? Pay back the taxpayers of America, with an interest as pertaining to investments. Ford was the only one to stand on its own. The Government will now and forever have control over GM.

Brad, the 1st time we mixed politics and religion was when we founded this great nation. Please go back and retake U.S. History 101....

“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” (Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: Written during the Administration of George Washington and signed into law by John Adams.)

Looks like I actually know history Sabra

Brad, I see you have not reviewed our National history, nor our Constitution. It just states in it the Congress, (Government,) cannot dictate nor interfere with Religion or churches.,

Sabra need to go back and study some elementary U.S. history. The Founders and Framers were bright and learned scholars of all sorts of disciplines, including religious history. The knew the terror that always resulted from mixing civic politics and Cardinal Dolan's version of church politics. That is precisely why the people of the U.S. accepted the separation of religion and our civil politics as the first of the four freedoms included in the First Amendment to the Constitution in 1791, so soon after the full document had been accepted by the people.

Hey Kendra Stewart, Ron Paul all the way! Right with you. One correction. Jesus didn't "Hang out" with thieves and prostitutes. The Pharisees wouldn't have been seen around these people because of their reputation might be tarnished. Jesus proved that the Pharisees were hypocrites. He came to save the lost and he wasn't afraid of a reputation of being seen with the thieves and prostitutes. Hanging out is a modern term that is used too loosely and dose not apply.

As I stated before they looked like they were two straight guys that were just pretending.. Thanks for confirming that. Pretty funny you have to admit. And they pulled it off. An interesting post by Jon Hall is that Samtorum's camp hire people to do the disruption and in turn get no-expense media coverage from it. I think that is entirely possible and just the kind of thing Santorum might pull. I don't trust him and he is not a conservative. He is a double talker like Obama. Says one thing to get support and does what ever to stay in power.

Tolerance can be taught at an early age. Unfortunately, hate can too. Congratulations for raising children who may be well balanced leaders one day. Santorum teaches hate and fortunately won't be a leader. Santorum now supported by the Duggers! 19 kids and counting. There's some evidence of results after a President Santorum effort to outlaw contraception. Who will pay for all the babies?

@Nicolle See Grasse my question wasn't about the children, it was about your motives. I see you were indoctrinated in "LGBT-welcoming" theology at an "Open and Affirming" seminary, so that explains everything. Thanks for sharing.

Russell Palmer U R an even bigger idiot with these statements. Using data almost 10 years old and an interview by one person, subjectively categorizing an entire group of people based upon ONE INDIVUDUAL in question supposedly survey. I suggest you research in recent data and see how high the rate of HIV, NOT AIDS (you likely do not even know what the difference is) is in the heterosexual population of the United States. Most new cases are NOT in gay men, but in the Heterosexual population the last 10 years. You are very uninformed. I do about 30 hours community service for local HIV/AIDS Orgs, so I see the statistics. Yours are as screwed up as your way of thinking. It’s idiots like you that are spreading HIV rampantly within the Heterosexual community because you “THINK” you will not get it. Last year I heard a woman say ...”I still don’t know how I got HIV, I never let my husband F—K me in the ass. The majority of new HIV cases are Heterosexual persons under 25. Since the 80’s HIV has DECREASED in the gay population year after year. It has INCREASED in the Heterosexual community. NONE of this by the way has anything to do with the discussion or the Presidential race. This is just the disgusting Right Wing Conservative movement trying to muddy the water for the Presidential election. This conversation or should I say in your case “schooling session” is over. I will not waste my time reading anymore of these ridiculous ill informed rants by you.

Hey Russell, Yes and he was also a believer in Keynesian economics. That's why the U.S. had a Great Depression instead of a very bad Recession. Obama is a believer in Keynesian economics also. The Austrians have proved it's the worst thing to do in the situation we have been in. Canada didn't follow Obama and Bernanke's lead. The countries that didn't follow the Keynesian way didn't suffer as us and won't have the same problems that are coming our way.
Great research on homosexuals. I have some gay friends that don't live close by me (all of them live hundreds of miles away). One has been with the same guy since 1980 but my friends partner would hit on me every time my friend was not around. I would just take his hand and move it back in his direction every time. But he never stopped the behavior. I'm sure I haven't been the only one. I haven't seen them since about 1990. There are a number of books that have done studies on the causes. One that I have, found that in the high 90% bracket each gay guy had/has very open Daddy issues. The gay guys I know are definitely in the group. Same with Lesbians. I know this will make most of them mad because to think about the abuse they lived through is pretty brutal. Healing is hard and painful. The friend that I just wrote about had a dad that molested all his 5 boys. Three of them are gay now, other 2 are passive and the dad who was a cop went to jail and everyone found out he had also been sexually abused by his father. Generational

Give it a rest Mike. You act as though everyone has to agree with you and they don't. Calling people Holy Roller Hypocrites is no better than Christians calling gays sinners. You obviously do not study the Bible and that is your right. Many people, whether Christian or not, do not accept the homosexual way of life as being appropriate. We each have a right to believe what we want without all the hate. You are spewing the very hatred that you are accusing others of doing. I suggest you sit down and study the New Testament with an unbiased mind, and then you might be better informed. And, I don't mean pick out a paragraph or two. After that, make you choices and leave others to do the same.

Mike, not to interrupt your ranting about intolerance, but you did see my earlier post about this incident that got you so riled up and do realize that these guys that got kicked out of the Santorum event are not gay and did this as a prank to make fun of gay activists. You are just adding to their victory by being so over the top here.. bottom line is that most people don't want to know the sexual preferences of everybody else. We don't want to see gay parades, hear about gay softball leagues, see the "first gay this or gay that.."

Mikes argument is over the top, but it's somewhat valid as well. Not everyone has to like or accept the homosexual lifestyle. That's why you have a choice not to engage in it. You have a choice not to go to the parade, to listen about their softball league and to not vote for or even support the first gay anything. The problem is that they, "the homosexual community," don't get the same choices you do on certain things. They don't get spousal rights in almost all the states. Employers can deny benefits because they aren't technically married. People want to deny them softball leagues? Why when there are many "single people" events can they not have one to find a partner? Again, as a country we have denied rights to African Americans, Women, Asians, and many other groups because we think they didn't deserve them. How is is this different? Gods "laws" have been taken either literally on some points and figuratively on others to prove points. We don't have massive rallies against people with Tattoos or piercings and God had a problem with those as well.

Religious as well as non secular people don't have to like the lifestyle. All that most of the LGBT community is looking for is the equality they are being denied. They aren't asking you to join them in softball or watch them in their homes. It doesn't effect your lifestyle at all.

...and the fact that these gentlemen apparently weren't even gay adds even more to the argument. Just two men kissing has garnered the most responses on this site that I can remember when the actual problem at hand is disruption of a public speaker, which happens all to often now.

Thank you Mike. We shall wave goodbye to you as you leave. Exit stage left., as the old saying goes.

Jon,

I agree with you actually. "Religion" is something so many people worship, rather than God Himself. The Bible warns us about "Religion" and its wrongful doings. All through the Old Testament, we have explanations of people wrongfully having religion, worshiping the wrong gods, making idols from their own handwork, which is also religion. Look what it got them. To overcome this demise, one needs to Worship the Real Live God, and His son, as well as the Holy Ghost, and follow the right track, to get into Heaven. Makes one wonder why so many people are afraid to accept the only Sacrifice that can get them saved from Hell, and misery, and choose to live a cporrupt life instead, which will send them there.

Appears that the devils have already muddled your ability to convey the details.