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Poll: Did Photo of Man Pushed Onto Subway Tracks Go Too Far?

The New York Post drew criticism this week for publishing a photo of a man about to die after being pushed onto subway tracks.

 

A photo of New Yorker Ki-Suck Han about to be killed by an oncoming train after being pushed onto subway tracks generated controversy this week.

The New York Post ran the photo on its cover and quickly incurred the wrath of those who felt it was in poor taste and exploitive, the L.A. Times reported. Others, such as Howard Kurtz at CNN wrote that the photo was newsworthy even though it also was unnerving.

Kurtz points out that there are photos of dead bodies published every day from war zones around the world. "The truth is that this picture seems more monstrously unfair because we can easily imagine being in the victim's place," Kurtz stated.

The freelance photographer R. Umar Abbasi also has faced criticism for taking photos while the man died. Abbasi has said that he was too far away to help the man and attempted to alert the train by shooting his camera and setting off the flash.

Patch decided to not feature a screen shot of the New York Post cover, however it is attached to this story if you would like to see it. Also attached, is video of Abbasi's interview with the "Today" show and a New York Post video report on the incident.

  • Did Photo of Man Pushed Onto Subway Tracks Go Too Far?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes. It was disgusting and exploitive. The photographer should have been too busy trying to help to snap photos.
        28 (71%)
    • No. It's news and brought attention to a crime. It's unfair to second guess the photographer, we weren't there.
        11 (28%)
    Total votes: 39
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Ki-Suck Han, Man Pushed On New York Subway, and New York Subway Attack

cynthia

10:44 am on Sunday, December 9, 2012

We had a similar crime happen right here in Chicago abot 10-12 years ago. A white businessman walking to work each day after getting off the train in Chicago. He told several friends that a black bicycle delivery man was harrassing him by riding by him in the morning and yelling racial slurs. A few days later the business man was pushed onto the tracks by the black man. He left behind a young son 6 years old and his wife. I was so disturbed by the crime I had called Mayor Daleys office and demanded that it be treated as a hate crime.

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Anthony P.

11:05 am on Sunday, December 9, 2012

I'm so disgusted of Chicago politics. The worst in the nation. All of them are crooks and even the crooks (child molesting felons) are running for office and have a good chance of winning. How about the long drawn out case involving Daily's cousin? Disgrace.

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Jon Hall

11:18 am on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Rupert Murdoch is an insensitive creep with the lowest standards of human decency in journalism.

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Cliff Hanger

11:49 am on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Pictures of war, famine, terror, torture are all unpleasant, all distasteful, but that is not the responsibility of the reporter or the news photographer. Their responsibility is to document the actuality. Once he determined that he could not save the man, what he did, was his job.

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Kathy O.

4:37 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Cliff Hanger, I'm sure he would make sure he was doing his "job" if that was his son or daughter laying on the tracks. C'mon. How insensitive can people be? That's what's wrong with this world. Everyone is out for themselves....and as long as it doesn't affect them, well, then it doesn't matter. And he is the only one that says he didn't have time to help the man. He's a liar. He didn't do anything, because that was his moment to get a great picture. How can you defend him?

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Jon Hall

7:32 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

His job was to get to the story. Who pushed the man? Where did he go? The story is identifying the perpetrator. The photographer has the camera. He's responsible to know how to pursue the story.

John L

1:34 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

It is a photo of a real event that represents a real problem. Maybe we need photos like this to give us the sense of outrage that we should have about an event like this. Better this, than sweep it under the rug with a vague description of what happened (that would barely made it out of the local paper), in the name of "good taste". Let's not use the excuse of "good taste" to insulate us from what is really happening out there.

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Kathy O.

4:39 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

John L, it's a WAY bigger problem than just absence of "good taste". And I'm sure you would have a different opinion if that were your son or daughter on the tracks. No one helped the poor man! They all just stared...and well...took pictures. Nice.

cynthia

3:51 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Well I don't actually think that the photographer actually determined "He could not help the man" he never even tried. Who gave him the job of photographing tragedy and horror? Who gave him this responsibility.??
God and humanity gave him the job to try and help his fellow man with everything he has and with all he could..As far as I am concerned I think he faile dhis job and should be fired from ever being paid for these pictures or getting any attention for them.

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cynthia

3:54 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

The public schools are at the root of our decay in society. They teach children and the parents to never ever address a problem directly..Oh no they demand that "ALL" issues and problems be brought to them so they can do nothing about it. People just don't realize the negative effect on society that these so called experts have. Children today can't even talk to an adult. Why? because thse public school staff want to make an excuse for their existence.

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david

4:09 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

So I guess PATCH thinks it's OK to repost the picture. What's the point of a poll?

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Skip

4:20 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Members of the media are trained and conditioned not to become part of the stories they are covering editorially or with video/photo images. This should not, however, be confused with the moral (and in some instances) legal responsibility to do everything in their power to intercede on behalf of their fellow human beings.

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J.Lyn

4:42 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Tragedies happen every day every where on this planet...and have happened every day since the beginning of time. Some horrors happen to be caught on film...most are not. There is only one person who understands the whole truth behind the decision in that flash of a moment the photographer lived...and that is the photographer. I would not judge him harshly. Who knows what you would do? A friends father jumped into a river once to save a drowning man. He died. The drowning man lived. The father who died left behind five children, two parents, four siblings. The drowning man had no family and died 3 months later of stage four cancer. Some people called him a hero. I think he made a bad decision. Cynthia...would you have risked your life at that moment? One never knows until faced with that terrible decision ...does one?

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Kathy O.

4:57 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

How do we know for sure he was risking his life if he tried to pull the man out of the tracks? He sure had time to raise his camera and point and shoot. So, how are we all so sure he didn't have time? Only he knows. I'm also upset at the newspaper for the picture and the headline - "Doomed"...That was NOT needed.

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J.Lyn

9:33 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Kathy O. ...Unless you were there...you were the photographer...unless you know everything about that hellish moment...you are not in a position to criticize . That is my only point. But...you are definitely correct that the use of the photo and the headline lacks ethics and class. So sorry for the family of this man. A compounded tragedy.

Cliff Hanger

4:47 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Cathy O,
You couldn't be more mistaken... News, is most often not pretty, not considered 'good taste'. The man was there doing his job. He was too far away to help in any other way but to report the image. The 'if it were his child' argument is specious. News is who, what. when. where and why and as they say; it's a tough job but somebody has to do it. I know, because I did it for nearly half a century and let me tell you, everyone of us carries those scars.

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Kathy O.

4:53 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

First of all, it's spelled "Kathy". And second, how do you know he was there doing his job? Do you know for a fact that he was "on the job" at that particular moment? No, you don't. So,are you saying that if it were his son or daughter on the tracks that he should have "done his job" and took pictures? My complete point with the "son or daughter" scenario is that no one cares if it doesn't affect them. The picture could have been left off the front page of the paper, and you know that. And the headline was even more disgusting. Again, I say, what would you think about that photographer if that were your son, daughter, wife, mother, etc.?

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Jon Hall

6:32 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Cliff I think you are lying about your experience. I grew up in a family of career news people, 80 years between my father and brother. I know you are wrong. Using a couple of big words with the sophomoronic "who, what" j-school cliche is a dead giveaway. Name the organization you worked for, and please provide examples examples of your experience.

Kathy O.

4:48 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

I am disgusted that people think the actions of the photographer and newspaper are okay. As I have responded to other posts with this comment, I will say it again. No one, and I mean no one, wants their child, mother, father, sister, brother, etc, shown on the front page of a newspaper as they are about to die. Think about it this way - If that was your son or daughter, how would you feel about a photographer taking pictures and not even attempting to help as your child lay on the tracks? I doubt you would say that his actions would be okay. The problem here is that people fail to put themselves in other people's shoes. If it doesn't affect them personally, then they don't worry about it. People are WAY too selfish. And shame on the other people at the scene that didn't attempt to rescue the man.

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cynthia

5:04 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Kathy O, I agree with you completely..I think taking a picture of someone getting ready to die is outrageous, cruel and inhumane. Yes, i know I would have tried to save this mans life. I would have ran towards him screaming..Help that man on the tracks grab him..Help him help him..
As for the story of the tragic accident of the young man dying while saving a life. How do you know that God did not present this test for this young man before taking him to heaven? Yes its tragic but he is a Hero. He did the one thing that God asks of us. "Love thy neighor as you love yourself" . News is not news when it is vulgar, insensitive and obscene. Above all else we have a moral and ethical obligation to life.
I have been blessed to have saved the life of one child and many many animals and yes I have risked my own life..Nothing has been more rewarding...Absolutly nothing comes close to saving a life.
Is there anything on this earth more important that this..

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J.Lyn

9:48 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Cynthia...Running around screaming "help that man"...telling someone else to "grab him" may make you feel better...but you risked nothing. In fact, you are asking others to risk their lives. YOU would have been the person standing back and waiting for someone else to take action. You would have been essentially as useless as the photographer. Your comments are all god chatter and fault finding in humanity. How sad life must be for you to view the world as you do...giving praise to an unknown entity and blaming humanity for being well...human.

cynthia

5:10 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

What I think is a tragic part of this World are those who think they are here to "observe" life. To stand back and wait for someone else to take action or do something..Personally I find this sad and pathetic..APATHY is at the root of moral and elthical decy. We all need to get in there and do our best to make this World a better place than if we were not here at all. Thats is our obligation..That is our responsibility.

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Kathy O.

5:13 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

YES!!!!! Thank you Cynthia!

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Cliff Hanger

5:16 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Kathy O,
Sorry about the misspelling. Yes, I do know he was there on assignment. You'd know that too had you listened as the story unfolded prior to having made up your mind. And by the way, it's taken, not took.

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Kathy O.

5:26 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Excuse me for not reading the exact news story you read. There are many out there. And seriously...it's one grammar mistake. It's because I am so upset that people can defend his actions, that I didn't check my grammar. Obviously, the photographer didn't know that the man was going to get hit by a train. He was there for another reason, I'm sure. So, I don't get why you think it's okay for him to take a picture of a man getting ready to die? You haven't answered my question, either. How would you feel if that were your wife, sister, brother, son, daughter, etc., on those tracks? Would you agree with his actions then? And thanks in advance for not being rude in your next comment.

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Jon Hall

6:34 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

The reporter reports. The news editors decide what gets printed or aired. What are your credentials bud?

Cliff Hanger

5:36 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Doctors don't treat friends and family and in general, news people aren't sent to cover stories involving same. It is always someone's child, brother, mate or friend and that fact is not forgotten. Now, The facts regarding the photographer's presence were given in all media response coverage, not just one isolated story. How can you be sure why he was there if you admittedly, don't know? You saw a man getting ready to die, he saw a terrible situation and did what he could to cover the event.
My former response was not at all rude - don't worry about the next, there won't be one. As you said; you're upset.

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Stevie Janowski

5:40 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

I see nothing wrong with the cover. I would have bought the paper

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Kathy O.

5:42 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

You are very heartless, Cliff Hanger. And just because I am upset and not checking my grammar doesn't mean I can't have a discussion. I wasn't speaking to you, anyway. And for the record, the story I read didn't have the reason the photographer was on the scene. You can't tell me that every story had that fact in it. Have you read them all? I don't care if he was a reporter or not. You don't photograph someone getting ready to die. And it does matter if it was your son, daughter, etc.....your opinion would change....and you can't tell me it wouldn't.

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Jon Hall

6:47 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Cliff has slipped up and is no doubt a phony. We were taught that the newsman's job in that situation was to try to find and identify the perpetrator and summon help to do so. It was not to stand around and photograph the victim. The NY Times has been famous for its typos and grammatical errors for years. If that's so important to Mr hanger, he's telling us a lot about his low self-esteem.

Kathy O.

5:53 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

"All for the sake of journalism" - PUKE! Where is the humanity?!?!? Some of you see this differently than I do, and I don't see how. I'm not going to argue anymore. This is a huge waste of my time. I hope nothing ever happens to your family members like that. Of course, it shouldn't just be your family members you care about. It should be people in general. But, somehow, that point gets lost when a good story is involved. Disgusting!

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Jon Hall

6:18 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

The truly disgusting part is that the world already knows the length Fox News outlets will go to get their hands on images like this. Wonder how much they paid for the images? These are the creeps who violated the cell phone and voice mail privacy of a dead little girl.

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Cliff Hanger

6:30 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

A photographer was sent on assignment to cover another possible story at a subway stop. While there he witnessed a man shoved on to the tracks in front of an approaching train. Realizing he was too far away to effect a rescue, he signaled the train with his strobe flash attachment. Failing to stop the train, he documented the (albeit, nightmarish) situation and then returned to his paper. The picture was not sold, it was licenced. How did this ever become about Fox?
Enough.

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John

6:37 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

The cover photo is bad taste, but this is what our society desires. I admittedly looked for the photo right away. I think we should worry more about the guy who murdered this man when he pushed him more than the bystander that did not save his life.

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Jon Hall

7:17 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Hard new reporters as you pretend mr anger don't get hung up on spelling. Info and story skills are number 1. Only a low self-esteem newsy poseur would criticize another author's spelling in a Patch Forum when the intent and thought behind their message is clear. If you knew anything about news reporting, you'd never mention Kathy's spelling and grammar here. That's the signature of bullies and blowhards.

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Cliff Hanger

7:25 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

No, Mr. hall... people who call other people names are those who qualify for that title... By the way, did you mean hard, new reporters or hard news reporters? And by the way, I never claimed to be a reporter, but I'll remove my Peabody from my desk right away just because you sure taught me a lesson...

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Jon Hall

7:43 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Not very intuitive. I purposely guided you astray by leaving the "H" off "mr. anger". Get it? Leaving the "h" off of Hanger leaves anger....appropo in your case I'm finding.

I also deliberately left the "s" off "new reporter" because I correctly guessed that you have an imaginary peabody in your mind, your intuitive skills are either too limited, or lacking.

You are a load of fun.

Cliff Hanger

7:26 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Oops... meant, Mr. (in caps) Hall

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Cliff Hanger

7:56 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

bonne nuit en colère, enfant pétulant

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Jon Hall

9:02 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Was your tiny little peabody illustrated by Ted Key? lol

D'skidoc

7:48 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

Gone a little astray with the comments, I see....
Vilifying the poor photog because he happened to be in the wrong place at the right time is poor form. I figure he had a "New York Minute" or between 6 and 8 seconds from the time anyone realized what had happened till impact. Only 6 or 8 people closest could have done anything to help (think crowded subway platform) and you can get an awful lot of flashes off in just a couple of seconds, but you can't move 25 feet through a crowd in that time unless you knock other people over and, I don't know, onto the tracks also. The photographer reacted as he would have observing life anywhere. The editor chose the pic to publish....that's another matter.
That we all gawk at the results and get so judgemental in the aftermath is, I guess, just human nature also. Pretty sad, all the way around.

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cynthia

8:44 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

J.Lyn,
You completely missed my point...I gues it was too much for you.
Many people have stated that the photographer was "Too Far" away from the man to help him. My point was I would have been running towards him screaming help him so that maybe just maybe someone close to him would have been unlocked from being frozen in place to have tried to lift this man out of the the tracks. If I were lucky enough to get to him in time I gaurentee I would have tried to get him out.
How sad for you that you have no faith, no expectation of humanity and clearly no character..By all means stay in your small world shopping at Big lots or Kmart. But for the rest of us who have a wolrd vision on life and humanity because we have travelled the world, are educated and think about subjects other than our next meal at the burger king we have higher expectations of mankind.

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Derrick Dempster-Galga

3:13 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012

Why do you have higher expectations of mankind when we, as a species, have been found wanting time and time again. Do not, for one moment, play the education/world view/thinking about things card to me, as it won't wash; you betray your failing more and more each time you type - that of a sanctimonious religious blowhard rapt by their own sense of importance (entirely misplaced), whilst deferring all responsibility to god. You don't make points, you project what you would have done (of course, as if this would be the case) as though you're correct and no-one else is. This photographer was well within his rights to take the photo without intervening, it is an obligation - to portray and illustrate all facets of life, even the dark underbelly (apt, in the subway) - if that was even the case. don't let physics get in the way, though, of your moronic rant.

annie

9:05 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

22 seconds can be a long time. If the photographer had started running towards the man on the tracks and pointing at him, yelling, it may have prompted others to spring into action, and grab the man. We will never know what could have been. Hindsight is 20/20.

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Jon Hall

9:25 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

I have to believe that the photographer knew exactly what he was doing, which was to please his editors with the kind of picture which fits with the publishers front page standards. He should have been chasing the story, the identity of the perpetrator, AND prompting others to help. The rag rewards him by running the picture. I doubt there's much hindsight within the Fox News empire, just cover-ups of deplorable ethics and activities ranging from bribery to invasion of privacy.

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cynthia

9:54 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

I have found on many occasions that people are "Frozen" in place when they see other people who need help. I was taught from a very early age to take action immediatly and to think on my feet. I encourage everyone who might find themselves in a position of split second thinking to yell out to the crowd what actions to take. Scream out what actions you are taking and what actions the rest of the crowd can take. So often peole are frozen because they don't know what to do..Think mobilize.

Try your best..take charge and take action. You never know what tomorrow brings.

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