Seems almost too easy to close this one, huh?

Something just doesn't sound right. Why would they find her in a culvert if she committed suicide?

Daddy o one would think this story line and charges will ensue fairly quickly. Im thinking in the next couple hours. How ever It might take a few days though ... But REALLY ????

It sounds fishy to me. She was probably murdered and made to look like a suicide.

Can't imagine why a person would leave a nice warm car to kill themselves in a cold culvert. Not by downing pills anyway.

And, if you haven't done an autopsy, why name the cause? Guess that's what the media does to get ppl's attention.

Yeh, that's my take on it as well. Why would anyone commit suicide and do it in a cold unpopulated culvert. ... Murder is more likely.

I happen to believe that this is a suicide. I know a couple of people that successfully commited suicide and where they did it and how is just as bizzare and telling of someone severely depressed and not thinking clearly. My thoughts and prayers are with the family now.

She was packing her bags to go to Florida where her husband was supposed to be.
Seems to me, if she had reserved a limo to go to the airport, I believe when the
doorbell rang, she was abducted.
I agree, with the person who said why would go to a culvert to commit suicide.
Maria Eugenis

Maria , the strange thing is why would this ladies bags be by the door the day before she was supposed to leave ? Possibly 2 days before she was to leave as She was seen on Monday supposedly? If the Limo driver saw the bags they had to be by the door or close to it. No one packs bags and puts them by the door days before a trip. hours yes days no.
This will be uncovered very soon. What ever is found it is a tragedy and very sad. Pray for the family Mrs Carlsen herself.

I don't know what to say. Typically, it is a guy who would go off to a cold woody area and blow his head off with a shot gun and make a mess to be never forgotten. A woman will typically take sleeping pills because they want to be found still beautiful. I believe this was murder. Even if they do an autopsy, do they honestly think the killer(s) would not have forced her to take the pills before killing her. I wonder if her husband did not have her killed, made a report about her harming herself and he looks innocent since he was in Fl. Typically, men will run far away to avoid accusations or they will be super close in order to keep their guilty conscience at ease as they need to know all of the details. BMW5, sounds like, someone had a lot of life insurance on her. However, the insurance would have to be in place for 2 years before it would pay out on a suicide. A criminal only have a few minutes to commit a crime, but there is forever for the truth to come out. Sound familiar Browns Chicken Massacre??

Many insurance companies will not pay out on a suicide. It is leaning towards murder. Very very sad... not what God had planed for us.... Pray for this poor lady and her family.

Lots of theories. However, the sheriff's office responded to a report that the woman was seen wandering down Rte. 12, by herself. Lead investigator George Manis assumed it was suicide. The coroner is investigating whether suicide or accidental.

sounds like she had enough of this world and that her trip to her husband wasnt going to make things better.

Yes many theories. I did not see this one from Claudia above.... the police responded
to a report she was seen wondering. So they picked her up and did what with her? Or perhaps it was a call to go with the cover up ? If they really responded to a call of her WALKING down RTE 12 it would have taken 1 minute to get there . did they talk to her? See her? I kind of doubt it... Maybe because she was not there ?

ok....... just so you ALL know...... a combination of zanex and seroquil would make ANYONE do weird things. IE, seroquil can make people walk, talk, eat, drive and all kinds of stuff and yet the person won't ever remember it. How do I know??? Because I take seroquil. I highly doubt she left her car, walked to where they found her and THEN took the pills. More than likely she drove around,,,,,,fighting with her depression,,,, her inner demons,,,,,,, parked,,,,, took pills and once they started to hit her left her car. Before you make stupid comments........... make sure you understand that A) you weren't there......... B) her FAMILY can see the comments and may be hurt by your words and C) if you don't know how the medication can affect people.......... SHUT YOUR DAMN PIE HOLE!!!

stephanie, did THIS article list the medications you mention? no. the people commenting didnt have the information you had.. please take your pill and shut your own pie hole.

Why didn't she travel with her family? Why did her family leave her if they were afraid she would hurt herself?

This is all very hard to read. The media was way too quick to speculate and have botched up a number of facts. In the end all I can say is that I hope some answers come out soon because an accidental death and suicide leave very different emotions on those who loved her. The world has forever changed for many without Maria Carlsen. I will miss her and remember her always.

Come on now, this sort of thing happens all of the time in DC. There was a federal informant a few years ago that was about to testify but couldnt take the pressure anymore so he garroted himself from behind and then shot himself with a shotgun in the chest at close proximity (not point blank) and the coronor ruled it a suicide. Remeber, the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it.

@ Stephanie, great feedback that needs to absolutlely be considered. While I fully appreciate the freeeom and interaction the internet allows.. I willl never understand folks posting such theories without absolutely considering the family and loved ones that would see them. I have a relationship with the family and as I read all of this it holds so heavy on my heart I could not imagine what it would feel like for her daugther, granddaughters, husband etc. Please think outside of yourself posters!

So sad. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family. If an overdose is involved, yes, irrational behavior is to follow after meds become absorbed.

Those of us who suffer from things like depression or anxiety are aware that weird behavior can ensue. Most people don't think about it, but travel is a stress or. We don't know what her personal life was like in the weeks prior, and we don't know if she harbored any fears about flying. There are so many unanswered questions yet to be known. I say let's be kind to the family and not put a bunch of unknown theories into place that this woman's family might read. There've already been a couple of comments made by people familiar with the family regarding this. Leave the detective work to the pros handling her case.

You are all whacked. Stop watching CSI and get a life

Allow the Investigators to do their job, before jumping to TV Drama conclusions. Contrary to popular belief, the police, far more often than not, get it right. Our prayers are with the family, who is left with picking up the pieces.

@Michael
We expect the media to be a little smarter than the police. Andl if nothing else, the media should have known it was inappropriate for the police to say what it MIGHT be.

I work in the pharmaceutical industry. Until toxicology reports and a full investigation is done no speculations of cause of death should have been said, especially for the families sake. Both theories could be right but no one knows now so my prayers go out to her family and friends, either way it's a sad loss no matter how she passed. P.S. Stephanie, prescription drugs effect people differently. I have patients where Seroquel has no effect on them at all and other's it makes them severely ill, so just because it makes you feel one way does not mean the same way for another. It also depends on mg and how much a person has taken, and or was alcohol a factor? You just never know, so before getting defensive let's wait and see what the reports say and give the family the respect they deserve.

My prayers r with d family......

If there is foul play I pray it all comes 2 light.....R.I.P. Maria

Dear Ellen,
You're ridiculous. Did you respond to the crime scene? No, you didn't. Are you a detective? No, you're most likely not. Maybe you should investigate all the crimes in the world since you APPARENTLY know how to solve them all. I would, personally, like to know how you figure out how to breathe on a day to day basis. Have a wonderful day:)

@a.f., I LALALALALOVEEEEE UR RESPONSE TO DETECTIVE GADGET AKA "ELLEN"! My thoughts and prayers are with the Carelson family.

I work only a few miles from where the body was found. I was actually at work at the time the police were investigating the area on thursday, and needless to say, it caught everyone's attention. We found out some facts: she was found missing tuesday morning, she was supposed to catch a flight that day to be with her husband on Valentines day, her bags were packed and Valentine's day cards were written to everyone she loved. Her car was found at a bar that she was not seen at... and she died (apparently) in a field, after wandering down the highway at night... I know people from the neighborhood she was from; it is a VERY wealthy community. Immediately I would think money is involved in this death in some way. Also, the police, sadly, DO NOT have excessive training in psychology and not every officer is a CSI agent... I do have a degree in psychology, and I have to say, this does NOT seem like a suicide. Her family said she may have been capable of it; she was not emotionally stable.... then why leave her alone on a holiday that people kill themselves on? (Also Xmas and Thanksgiving have high suicide rates)... And people who are about to kill themselves certainly don't stop to pack for a vacation that they are NOT going on... or write cards to their loved ones. there are usually indicators of thoughts of suicide... giving away valuable possessions, saying "goodbye".... and why would a wealthy woman about to leave on vacation kill herself 3-4 miles from home outside in the cold

Moreso, her jacket and her cell phone were left at home, but she brought her purse with her... Cell phones have GPS trackers, first of all, and can be used to call for help. If she was driving to go "off herself," i wonder why she would first of all bring along her purse (with, I'm assuming, I.D. such as her license) but care to leave her jacket and phone at home? Wouldn't she want her family to know what happened to her and not worry? Even if she wanted to die, why no note? She wrote valentines day cards to her family, and there have been no indicators yet that those were any sort of suicidal notes... and who uses antidepressants in a dark cold field to kill herself? Especially for a woman; a wealthy woman... she could've done it at home, in bed, or in the bath... and still been found earlier. It just doesn't add up... and the police ruled it a suicide within an hour of finding her... seems like some lazy officers don't want to investigate a case with some HUGE holes in it... and I do feel bad for her family. I hope they find out who did this... because I don't believe she did it to herself, and I work close to the area, and thinking there might be a killer out there is SCARY.

#1 - Life insurance policies have a "suicide clause" but this expires 2 years after the policy went into effect. Likely at her age this policy if one was purchased has met the 2 year condition
#2 - Money cannot buy happiness, we are seeing more and more wealthy persons mutilating theirselves with drugs, alcohol, etc. (so for all that believe it does, remember history continues to repeat itself)
#3 - some wealthy people live beyond their means, and not within trying to maintain that image that they are "wealthy" eventually a person can break trying to maintain this image
#4 - what ever the cause, it is a very sad day, week, month year for her family, friends and specifically children. Remember they are able to read your posts and the information whether it opinion or fact should be entered in good taste

You said it correct when you stated some lazy cop being incompotent and not even making a small effort to do just the simple thing called{your job}. Not anyone having cards filled out to love one is clinically depressed. When you are this depressed the last thing on your mind is caring enough to take the time to carefully select cards and personally address them to each individual that you are thinking of enough to be that thoughtful. Hell I'm no where near wealthy and drive a very nice car,and no way will I be leaving my nice warm ride to seclude myself in a cold concrete or metal cor

That's metal culvert! I have learned from personal experience to believe nothing tat comes out of a cop mouth. You should believe just the opposite most of the time. They hold so much power with the stroke of a pen ,but usually never uphold their oath to be true to the average citizen. I would not take this at face value and hire an outside source to do a proper investigation concerning this matter. You will only get just when you look them in the eye and let them know I don't buy this swift crap you're trying to feed me and I don't appreciate my intelligence being insulted Mr. Officer .

That's get justice!

@Bucephalus Hey. A talking horse. Cool.

The police don't release all the information only that which they see fit. Without ”ALL” the fact its all just speculation until the autopsy is combined with everything else. Relax people more info to come on this one.

did anyone notice that the statement said the family last spoke to maria around 2pm monday the 13th...and the tip that called into the police on thur.said that they saw a woman fitting her description walking on the highway that same day and time? ....even though it was said her cell was left behind at her home along with the packed bags?so my question is did they ever disclose how maria made or received that final call to the family member?nothing was mentioned about that call being anything out of the norm. like walking down a highway perhaps? and does anyone know if the call to the police was from a anonymous tipster or not?cause that doesnt add up..and before anyone jumps down my throat , i am not trying to stir up speculations i was just curious if anyone else observed the same...

I think the family and victim are important here, not the Monday morning quarterbacking. In my job, I have seen many families deal with suicides that seem so obscure. In that process, I have also know the police to work hard to find the truth. Information is intentionally held from the public for a reason. Say if there is a suspected homicide by a family member, the best way to investigate it may be to say it appears to be self inflicted as to not make the murderer hide out and lose information that might come from that own person's mouth. All I know is, when I go to the dentist, I don't tell him how to do his job because he is the one trained to do the job, not me. I never went to dental school. I also have never seen what people are describing as a "normal" suicide. I've unfortunately been involved with so many that there is no "text book " suicide or accidental death. It is a last resort decision made by a hurting sole and it is the last action in their lives that they can control, when many have feelings of hopelessness and grief. Please respect this family and hope they themselves can find the answers they need to find peace. God bless

For what it is worth, the investigation is in the preliminary stages. They have to write something in the report, but that does mean it is a conclusion. I am sure when the Lake Counties Coroner's report comes back the authorities will dig deeper into this. As to suicide people do strange things. Some step in front of trains, some use drugs or medications, some hang themselves, or other ways. You never know what is going through a person's mind, and some of the antidepressants have a number of side effects if you do not follow the dosage correctly, or drink while taking them. Let the authorities do their job, and then go from there.

ALL speculation people! Too much grandstanding from the sidelines!! Condolences to her family. Let the police do their jobs.

Coroner says no foul play. Toxicology reports are not in yet but they are saying no trauma or foul play. Very sad.

Something interesting I read on another site. She was spotted on Monday by this caller at around 1 pm wandering by the road. The owner of the bar where her car was found closed his bar at 11:30 Monday night and no BMW was in his lot. He saw the BMW in the lot when he arrived Tues morning. So if she was in the area of that road and that is where her body was found, how and when did her car get to the bar's parking lot sometime between midnight Monday and Tuesday morning? Unless the caller saw her Tuesday. It says family last saw her at 2pm on Monday but the caller saw her at 1 pm. COnfusing.

I really think you should give the authorities the benefit of the doubt and let them do their jobs. None of us know all the facts, and maybe there is foul play, but they need the time and pieces of the puzzle to work out what happened. It may very well be suicide, or it may not, but they have not ruled anything. All the report says is suspected and that is not Definate. I wish the family well during these trying times.

The police and investigators already have a good idea of what happened. Im sure an announcement will be made in the next 48 hours. To get the proper people charged properly without blowing a case entails a little work. It will be handled and make headlines soon. Again our prayers are with her and family members. Terribly sad

As mentioned above, anytime someone is found in this situation, the Police have to give something for the reports. If someone is found with an obvious gun shot to the head for example, they will repot "died of an apparent gun shot wound to the head". Not " the person died of a gunshot wound to the head". That is until the autopsy and investigation are complete. Yes, the cause of death may be shot to the head, however without investigation, blood level reports, etc they have no way of knowing how it happened and can not report such until ALL facts are in. Especially in a case as this, where there is no obvious signs of trauma on the outside. There are also conflicting reports that say the family feared this may happens and others that say the family is " baffled" as to where she could be or what happened. What I also find interesting ( and I could be way wrong in thinking/asking this ) but I always thought with adults they had to wait ( at least ) 24 hours to be able to report someone missing . From the reports the family say they last heard from her Monday around 2:00pm, and the limo came early Tuesday morning. I am also at a total loss as to how they did not find her until Thursday only when the "tip" came in. With all the police officers, detectives, bloodhounds, and helicopters they did not find her within a 1 mile radius of where her car was found. I agree with what Darren posted above. I feel like an anounc

I cant beleive I just spent this much time reading all of these useless comments. Really. if you have the answers, why arent you on the case..McGuyvers...

This article read that she died of an "apparent" suicide and Sherifs Office say " suspected " suicide. Meaning just based off of what they know and see at the scene and what they have been told by family the days before. If polce find someone who passed away with 2 bottles of prescription drugs and known to be depressed ( according to family ) what does that look like? An apparent/suspected suicide. It has not been ruled suicide.
I also dont understand how the caller said they saw someone matching Maria on Monday around 2:00, but the bar owner says her car was not there until Tuesday morning. Where was her car while she was walking around Monday afternoon. Questions questions !
If it is suicide, or murder, either way very very sad. I can't even imagine what her family and loved ones are going through. I did not know Mrs. Carlsen and I am so sad. I hope she is resting in peace and the detectives are able to find out what happened.

Amber, from your post you appear quite smug and smitten with yourself. Please keep in mind that this is a forum for people to express their feelings on any given article whether one agrees or not. However, I personally agree with you that you should not waste anymore of your time reading these useless comments...

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